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Nancy Redman
1782 - 1871 (89 years)
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1
Nancy Redman
[1]
b. 16 Mar 1782 d. 11 Aug 1871
Lloyd Benton Prather
b. 25 Nov 1782 d. 25 Apr 1867
2
Thomas Helms Prather
[1.1]
b. 2 Apr 1805 d. 8 Dec 1888
Elizabeth Lindsey
d. Yes, date unknown
3
Francis A. Prather
[1.1.1]
b. 1849 d. Yes, date unknown
Nancy Alverson
d. 1911
3
James Prather
[1.1.2]
b. 1853 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Esther Prather
[1.1.3]
b. 1857 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Dicy Prather
[1.1.4]
b. 1859 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Nelson Prather
[1.1.5]
b. 1865 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Cena Prather
[1.1.6]
b. 1866 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Vada Prather
[1.1.7]
b. 1868 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Amy Prather
[1.1.8]
b. 1869 d. Yes, date unknown
2
James Russell Prather
[1.2]
b. 17 Nov 1807 d. 25 Jan 1850
Louvica Caroline Veatch
b. 1810 d. 15 Jul 1841
3
Mary Elizabeth Prather
[1.2.1]
b. 21 Nov 1831 d. 16 Oct 1909
William Henry Hamilton
b. 11 Nov 1811 d. 11 Jun 1874
4
Francis Russell Asbury Hamilton
[1.2.1.1]
b. 30 Sep 1857 d. 16 Aug 1913
5
Henry E. Hamilton
[1.2.1.1.1]
b. Jun 1892 d. Yes, date unknown
Mary Adelaide Stewart Glass
b. 25 Oct 1855 d. 3 May 1930
5
James Baker Hamilton
[1.2.1.1.2]
b. 24 Feb 1884 d. 6 Apr 1979
Caroline Merr
6
Ethel Hamilton
[1.2.1.1.2.1]
b. 5 Sept 1909 d. 19 Feb 1992
+
Frederick Theodore Blunek
+
Helen Taylor
5
Frances Adelide Hamilton
[1.2.1.1.3]
b. 6 Jul 1886 d. 27 Oct 1940
Fay Milton Chase
6
Phillip Ernest Chase
[1.2.1.1.3.1]
b. 1909 d. 14 Oct 1972
+
Faye Arien
6
Kenneth James Chase
[1.2.1.1.3.2]
b. 17 Jul 1911
+
Nellie Dodson
6
Milton Francis Chase
[1.2.1.1.3.3]
b. 28 Nov 1912 d. 29 Aug 1926
6
Robert Hamilton Chase
[1.2.1.1.3.4]
+
Dagmar Lindstrom
5
Homer Eugene Hamilton
[1.2.1.1.4]
b. Jun 1892 d. 17 Oct 1901
4
Edwin Perry L. Hamilton
[1.2.1.2]
b. 15 Mar 1859 d. 17 Dec 1922
Josephine Agnes Quinn
b. 4 Mar 1863 d. 21 Nov 1929
5
Irene May Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.1]
b. 18 May 1884 d. 12 May 1950
Curry Vincent
6
Ella Vincent
[1.2.1.2.1.1]
6
Clyde Vincent
[1.2.1.2.1.2]
6
Floyd Vincent
[1.2.1.2.1.3]
5
Willie E. Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.2]
b. 29 Aug 1885 d. 4 Oct 1887
5
Josie Nevada Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.3]
b. 10 Dec 1888 d. 15 Mar 1941
Samuel Murchinson Compton
b. 8 Jun 1877 d. 11 Aug 1947
6
Winifred Elaine Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.1]
b. 26 Mar 1909 d. 16 Feb 1993
+
Serge James Lauper
b. 28 Aug 1901 d. 14 Feb 1994
+
Karl Matson
b. 1905 d. 8 May 1961
+
John O'Brien
Leonard Francois Tremoureux
b. 18 Oct 1906 d. 28 Sep 1958
7
Leonard Eugene Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1]
b. 1 Jul 1929 d. 12 Jul 2007
Unknown, Wife of Tremoureux Gayle
8
Gayle Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.1]
8
Richard Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.2]
8
Dawn Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.3]
Bonnie Van Zandt
8
Dawn Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.4]
+
Steve Dietz
+
Val
8
Richard Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.5]
Linda
9
Eric Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.5.1]
9
Adam Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.5.2]
9
Evan Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.1.5.3]
7
Ronald Francis Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.2]
b. 23 Jun 1931 d. 7 Jan 1987
Eleanore Berglund
8
Linda Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.2.1]
7
Gordon Samuel Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.3]
Lynn
8
Cherie A. Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.3.1]
+
Kemp Peterson
8
Traci Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.3.2]
+
Greg
8
Jeff Tremoureux
[1.2.1.2.3.1.3.3]
+
Beth
6
Milton Samuel Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2]
b. 3 Sep 1910 d. 21 May 1985
Elizabeth Taggs
d. 21 May 1985
7
Alice Elaine Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.1]
7
James Milton Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.2]
b. 21 Jun 1942 d. 26 Mar 2011
8
Ashley Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.2.1]
8
James Martin Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.2.2]
8
Melody Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.2.3]
8
Amanda Hammack Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.2.4]
8
Christine Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.2.2.5]
6
Alice Marie Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.3]
b. 29 Nov 1912 d. 15 Aug 1989
Harold Henry Bradley
b. 19 Oct 1909 d. 29 Jun 1979
7
Margaret Maurine Bradley
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1]
b. 23 Nov 1936 d. 22 Feb 2021
Ronald Dean Jones
b. 8 Jul 1936 d. 21 Jun 2020
8
Kevin Michael Jones-Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1]
Bernice Marie Johnson
9
Raymond Bradley Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.1]
9
Kenneth Ronald Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.2]
9
Danielle Suzanne Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.3]
William Mariani
b. 2 Oct 1983
10
Savanna Mariani
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.3.1]
b. 19 Oct 2009
10
Olie Mariani
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.3.2]
b. 12 Jun 2014
9
Nathaniel Timothy Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.4]
Keri Schuyler
10
Skyler Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.4.1]
b. 22 Oct 2008
10
Ayden Layne Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.1.4.2]
b. May 2010
+
Vickie Lavern Davis
+
Judi Naoma Morgan
8
Lady Kathleen Alice Jones-Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2]
Marlin Lee Staveness
9
Rebecca Jean Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1]
Jimmy Lee Regenhardt
10
Kristoffer Shaun-Michael Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.1]
Heather Elaine Hughes
11
Kaden Jayce Hughes-Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.1.1]
b. 5 Sep 2014
11
Kendalynn Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.1.2]
Kimberly, Wife of Regenhardt
11
Hannah Annmarie Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.1.3]
b. 14 Sep 1017
Carlos Miguel Corral
10
Unnamed Corral
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.2]
b. Jul 2001 d. Jul 2001
Lee Travis Whitaker
10
Steve Austin Corral
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.3]
Sabrina Barnhorst
11
Holly Barnhorst
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.3.1]
11
Faith Barnhorst
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.3.2]
Christopher James Dillinger
10
Alexandra Marie Dillinger
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.4]
Seth Rice
11
Emerson Lee-Marlin Rice
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.4.1]
b. 12 Mar 2017
11
Sofia Rice
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.4.2]
11
Jameson Rice
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.1.4.3]
+
Benjamin Carl Croley
9
Jon Lee Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.2]
Crystal Michelle Clemence
10
Terran Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.2.1]
10
Aiden Alexander Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.2.2]
10
Daemyn Camarillo-Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.2.2.3]
+
Alfred Herbert Arnold
+
Anthony Michael Scioli
b. Aug 22 1956 d. Feb 26 2021
+
Dale Allen Jordan
+
Officer David Glen Evans
b. 17 May 1951 d. 25 Feb 2022
+
Rodney Franklin Herman-Zagala
John Phillip Rouse
8
John Phillip Rouse, Jr.
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.3]
b. 29 May 1961 d. 2 Jun 1961
8
Infant Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.4]
b. 4 Jun 1964 d. 4 Jun 1964
8
Lady Kathleen Alice Jones-Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5]
Marlin Lee Staveness
9
Rebecca Jean Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1]
Jimmy Lee Regenhardt
10
Kristoffer Shaun-Michael Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.1]
Heather Elaine Hughes
11
Kaden Jayce Hughes-Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.1.1]
b. 5 Sep 2014
11
Kendalynn Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.1.2]
Kimberly, Wife of Regenhardt
11
Hannah Annmarie Regenhardt
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.1.3]
b. 14 Sep 1017
Carlos Miguel Corral
10
Unnamed Corral
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.2]
b. Jul 2001 d. Jul 2001
Lee Travis Whitaker
10
Steve Austin Corral
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.3]
Sabrina Barnhorst
11
Holly Barnhorst
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.3.1]
11
Faith Barnhorst
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.3.2]
Christopher James Dillinger
10
Alexandra Marie Dillinger
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.4]
Seth Rice
11
Emerson Lee-Marlin Rice
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.4.1]
b. 12 Mar 2017
11
Sofia Rice
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.4.2]
11
Jameson Rice
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.1.4.3]
+
Benjamin Carl Croley
9
Jon Lee Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.2]
Crystal Michelle Clemence
10
Terran Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.2.1]
10
Aiden Alexander Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.2.2]
10
Daemyn Camarillo-Staveness
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.5.2.3]
+
Alfred Herbert Arnold
+
Anthony Michael Scioli
b. Aug 22 1956 d. Feb 26 2021
+
Dale Allen Jordan
+
Officer David Glen Evans
b. 17 May 1951 d. 25 Feb 2022
+
Rodney Franklin Herman-Zagala
8
Kevin Michael Jones-Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6]
Bernice Marie Johnson
9
Raymond Bradley Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.1]
9
Kenneth Ronald Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.2]
9
Danielle Suzanne Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.3]
William Mariani
b. 2 Oct 1983
10
Savanna Mariani
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.3.1]
b. 19 Oct 2009
10
Olie Mariani
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.3.2]
b. 12 Jun 2014
9
Nathaniel Timothy Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.4]
Keri Schuyler
10
Skyler Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.4.1]
b. 22 Oct 2008
10
Ayden Layne Rouse
[1.2.1.2.3.3.1.6.4.2]
b. May 2010
+
Vickie Lavern Davis
+
Judi Naoma Morgan
+
Edward Sanford Whitney
b. 12 Nov 1930 d. 6 Feb 2010
+
Butch Lunquist
d. Abt 2014
7
Infant Bradley
[1.2.1.2.3.3.2]
b. May 1938 d. May 1938
7
Judith Elizabeth Bradley
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3]
Arthur Theodore Giese
8
Michelle Raina Giese
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.1]
Wayne Lake
9
Andrew Theodore Lake
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.1.1]
8
Alison Lea Giese
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.2]
Ronald Timothy Weiss
9
Samuel Arthur Weiss
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.2.1]
9
Elenor Ana Weiss
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.2.2]
9
Eleanor Ana Weiss
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.2.3]
8
Jennifer Adrienne Giese
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.3]
John Roger Norris
9
Lauren Elizabeth Norris
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.3.1]
9
Steven John Norris
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.3.2]
9
Austin Norris
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.3.3]
9
Austin Daniel Norris
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.3.4]
9
Logan Everett Norris
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.3.5]
8
Juliet Ariana Giese
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.4]
Major Clark Lennon Smith
9
Kye Lennon Smith
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.4.1]
+
Mark Siegesmund Swiecicki
8
Dana Elizabeth Giese
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.5]
Jeremy Sacks
9
Hannah Rose Sacks
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.5.1]
9
Jonah Benjamine Sacks
[1.2.1.2.3.3.3.5.2]
6
Edwin Hamilton Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.4]
b. 11 Dec 1914 d. 9 Dec 1973
Mable L. Kelly
b. 7 Mar 1915 d. 22 Oct 2005
7
Sandra Joanne Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.4.1]
William Champin
8
William Edwin Champin
[1.2.1.2.3.4.1.1]
+
Linda Esther Warsaw
7
Joseph Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.4.2]
7
Edwin Hamilton Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.4.3]
6
Joseph Benjamin Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.5]
b. 19 Aug 1918 d. 9 May 1985
Pearl
b. 28 Jun 1918 d. 16 Dec 2009
7
Gregg Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.5.1]
7
Gary Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.5.2]
6
Harry Richard Compton
[1.2.1.2.3.6]
b. 11 Oct 1924 d. 1 Aug 1947
5
Edna Frances Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.4]
b. 20 May 1891 d. 9 Dec 1937
Antone Dotta
6
Emil E. Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.1]
6
Antone E. Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.2]
6
Anna Marie Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.3]
6
Donald Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.4]
6
Anetta Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.5]
6
Agnes C. Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.6]
+
Smith
6
Adella Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.7]
+
Alvin Lombardi
6
Alice Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.8]
+
Hathaway
6
Aileen Dotta
[1.2.1.2.4.9]
+
Jack Alpers
5
Leon Quinn Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.5]
b. 1 Aug 1894 d. 29 Sep 1957
Mildred Pezel
6
Lawrence Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.5.1]
b. 29 Aug 1916 d. 8 Sep 1992
+
Gladys
5
Elmer Joseph Hamilton
[1.2.1.2.6]
b. 3 Mar 1896 d. 28 Oct 1943
+
Mary Ramelli
d. 26 Sep 1946
4
Emma Agusta Hamilton
[1.2.1.3]
b. 18 Feb 1861 d. 8 Jan 1907
Noah Christner
b. 6 Nov 1869 d. 1 Apr 1950
5
William Hamilton Christner
[1.2.1.3.1]
b. 1899 d. 21 Jul 1938
+
Cora Lucille Striker
5
Walter Christner
[1.2.1.3.2]
b. 1901 d. 12 Dec 1907
5
Leone Christner
[1.2.1.3.3]
b. Oct 1906
Joseph Schlomberg
b. 22 Sep 1850 d. 27 Mar 1893
5
Charles Schlomberg
[1.2.1.3.4]
b. 6 Nov 1887 d. 2 Dec 1895
5
Pearl Augusta Schlomberg
[1.2.1.3.5]
b. 5 Nov 1889 d. 6 Jul 1927
+
Rowland Elias Edwards
b. 1889 d. 1948
4
Infant Hamilton
[1.2.1.4]
b. Oct 1862 d. Oct 1862
4
Charles Grant Hamilton
[1.2.1.5]
b. 23 Sep 1865 d. 30 Jun 1934
Carrie Durrenberger
b. 12 Feb 1871 d. 11 Apr 1962
5
Claude Peter Hamilton
[1.2.1.5.1]
b. 31 Aug 1892 d. 16 Jun 1967
Ellen Williams
6
Robert William Hamilton
[1.2.1.5.1.1]
+
Marian Evelyn Conneux
6
David Earl Hamilton
[1.2.1.5.1.2]
b. 27 Mar 1925 d. 13 Jun 1989
+
Barbara Jane Smith
6
Richard Charles Hamilton
[1.2.1.5.1.3]
+
Myrtle Armer
5
Viola Magdalena Hamilton
[1.2.1.5.2]
b. 2 Aug 1894 d. 1991
+
Gilbert
3
Nancy Jane Prather
[1.2.2]
b. 12 Sep 1833 d. 4 Aug 1895
Rev. Oliver Perry Light
b. 7 Apr 1828 d. 28 Mar 1904
4
Mary Catherine Light
[1.2.2.1]
b. 2 Jul 1854 d. 7 Aug 1855
4
Minnie Light
[1.2.2.2]
b. 1 Mar 1858 d. 7 Mar 1858
4
Laurie Mathilda Light
[1.2.2.3]
b. 9 Mar 1859 d. Yes, date unknown
Charles Vance
5
Hal Hirsche Vance
[1.2.2.3.1]
5
Enid Light Vance
[1.2.2.3.2]
4
William Russell Light
[1.2.2.4]
b. 3 Apr 1861 d. 2 Jan 1934
Mary Ellen Dorsey
5
Evelyn Frances Light
[1.2.2.4.1]
5
Ethel Mdarguerite Light
[1.2.2.4.2]
5
Enid Beatrice Light
[1.2.2.4.3]
4
David Franklin Light
[1.2.2.5]
b. 23 Jun 1863 d. 4 Sep 1863
4
Harriet Caroline Light
[1.2.2.6]
b. 21 Apr 1866 d. 22 Feb 1927
John Vance
5
Ray Irwin Vance
[1.2.2.6.1]
5
Lura Light Vance
[1.2.2.6.2]
5
Jay Hirsche Vance
[1.2.2.6.3]
4
Frances Dickenson Light
[1.2.2.7]
b. 17 May 1873 d. Yes, date unknown
Julia Spencer
5
Francis Light
[1.2.2.7.1]
4
Olive Jennie Light
[1.2.2.8]
b. 17 Mar 1877 d. 11 Feb 1899
Charles Wood
5
Little Ned Wood
[1.2.2.8.1]
3
Enoch Locke Prather
[1.2.3]
b. 4 Sep 1835 d. 27 Mar 1904
+
Mary Anna Walmer
b. 12 Aug 1848 d. 3 Nov 1931
3
Sarah Ann Sally Prather
[1.2.4]
b. 25 Nov 1837 d. 11 Apr 1918
+
Benjamin Ivins
b. 17 Aug 1838 d. 23 May 1918
3
Indiana Prather
[1.2.5]
b. 25 Nov 1837 d. 11 Apr 1918
+
Henry Grammer
d. Yes, date unknown
3
Elvira Ellen Prather
[1.2.6]
b. 7 Sep 1839 d. 1880
+
William Smith
d. Yes, date unknown
3
Louvicy Caroline Prather
[1.2.7]
b. 5 Jul 1841 d. 1900
+
Auson C. Jones
d. Yes, date unknown
Elizabeth Jane Jameson
b. 6 Aug 1822 d. 26 Apr 1906
3
Margaret Elan Prather
[1.2.8]
b. 10 Jan 1843 d. 1921
3
Marion Washington Prather
[1.2.9]
b. 8 Dec 1844 d. 4 Apr 1906
+
Nancy J. Smith
d. Yes, date unknown
3
Maria L. Prather
[1.2.10]
b. 18 Nov 1846 d. Jul 1848
3
Catherine Prather
[1.2.11]
b. 1849 d. Yes, date unknown
3
Martha Emmaline Prather
[1.2.12]
b. 18 Jan 1849 d. Yes, date unknown
+
Jackson Black
2
Elizabeth Ann Prather
[1.3]
b. 19 Sep 1810 d. 14 May 1892
+
Abraham Abram Swartz
b. 16 Oct 1802 d. 12 Nov 1891
+
Abraham Schwartz
d. Yes, date unknown
2
Reason A. Prather
[1.4]
b. 1812 d. Yes, date unknown
+
Sally Ann Veatch
b. 1802 d. 1840
2
Lillas Prather
[1.5]
b. 1814 d. 1835
2
Mary Ellen Prather
[1.6]
b. 1817 d. 1911
+
Campbell Rankin
d. Yes, date unknown
2
William Redman Prather
[1.7]
b. 1820 d. 22 Jan 1883
+
Sarah Clark
+
Sarah M. Robertson
2
Johnathan Prather
[1.8]
b. 1823 d. Oct 1852
+
Elizabeth Roland
d. Yes, date unknown